http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28951-2004Oct13.html
Investors Flock to Web Networking Sites
By Michael Liedtke
The Associated Press
Wednesday, October 13, 2004; 7:05 AM
Musings on white collar professional guilds, web communities, social software, social networking and the ProfGuilds / Software Product Marketing [SPM] eGroup and ResumeBlog projects.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28951-2004Oct13.html
Investors Flock to Web Networking Sites
By Michael Liedtke
The Associated Press
Wednesday, October 13, 2004; 7:05 AM
Topic is the power of deep linking thru blogs.
John Battelle is Visiting Professor, UC Berkeley Graduate School of Journalism, one of the co-founders of Wired magazine and the founder and former Chair of Standard Media International ("The Standard"), publisher of The Industry Standard and TheStandard.com. http://journalism.berkeley.edu/faculty/battelle/
He makes the same point that Adam Penenberg did in “Searching for the New York Times” (major media is becoming irrelevant because it can’t be found via links) but his emphasis is on blog links rather than search engine links. http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,64110,00.html
I added a comment to his blog entry and linked to my description of SubscriptionPal.
http://battellemedia.com/archives/000957.php
Cynthia
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From Pull to Point: How to Save The Economist and The Journal from Irrelevance
by John Battelle
http://battellemedia.com/archives/000957.php
EXCERPT (NOT THE WHOLE POST)
“The real issue is how paid registration is handled. I find, increasingly, that sites which wall themselves off are becoming irrelevant. Not because the writing or analysis is necessarily flawed (though honestly, I don't trust journalists who eschew the blogosphere), but rather because their business model is. In today's ecosystem of news, the greatest sin is to cut oneself off from the conversation. Both the Economist and the Journal have done that.
”So what is to be done? My suggestion is simple: Take the plunge and allow deep linking. Notice I did not say abandon paid registration, in fact, I support it. Publishers can let the bloggers link to any story they post, but limit further consumption of their site to paid subscribers.
“I'd be willing to wager that the benefit of allowing the blogosphere to link to you will more than make up for potential lost subscribers. First off, if you as a publisher do not offer additional paid subscription benefits beyond the articles themselves, you're not paying attention to your community. And in any case, many folks will pay to subscribe to a site which is continually being linked to. In fact, I'd wager that the landing pages from blog links might be the most lucrative place a publisher can capture new subscribers. It's a massive opportunity to convert: the reader has come to your site on the recommendation of a trusted source (the blog he or she is reading). It's pretty certain that if you make that page inviting, and use it as an opportunity to sell the reader on the value of the rest of your site, that that reader will eventually feel like the Journal is worthy of his or her support.
“Why? In short, if a reader finds him or herself pointed to the Journal on a regular basis, that reader knows that by subscribing to the Journal, he or she would be more in the know. After all, all of the blogs read and point to the Journal, the reader thinks, so perhaps I should read it too. Before subscribing, the only time a reader might find out something in the Journal is if someone points to it (a far sight from where things stand today, by the way). But if they subscribe, they can get their own RSS feeds, and be first to know something. And, in the end, isn't that what drives subscription sales?
“Net net, I think allowing deep linking will drive subscription sales, rather than attenuate them.”
Charles,
Wow, thanks for the great link to Slashdot which linked to the Register article which is excellent and links to some other interesting stuff.
Warning!!!!! Social Networking Luddite opinions in those articles!!!! Don’t say you weren’t warned and don’t go there if your toes will get burned.
Cynthia
From: Charles Jo [mailto:cjo@inteliant-tech.com]
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 11:20 PM
To: webcommunities@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [webcommunities] Yelp - local recommendations thru friends
Slashdot has a discussion on Yelp here:
http://slashdot.org/articles/04/10/15/1633235.shtml?tid=95&tid=111
My favorite comment from one of the readers is:
It's about time somebody saved me the hassle of having to hit that CC button, my efficiency is going to skyrocket now.
This one may be a tough sell unless they change their model. But out of curiosity, I may test it.
Best Regards,
Charles Jo
Article: Neopets gambling controversy
http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/15/1413222
Posted by Zonk on Friday October 15, @10:05AM
from the neoaddicts-eh? dept.
Neopoet writes "Players of the online virtual pet game Neopets (claims 70 million pet owners worldwide) have gone nuts against an Australian current affairs show called Today Tonight after the show ran segments railing against the Neopets for introducing children to gambling. Click below to read on.
It started when McDonalds Australia included a Neopets plush toy with every kids' Happy Meal in
To "feed" their pets, Neopets players have to win points in a variety of mini-games, including versions of poker and blackjack.
TT aired the story Parents not McHappy over pokie toy and the Neopets message boards went nuts. Meanwhile McDonalds heavied Neopets into banning Australians from the gambling games. Today Tonight must have received a lot of hate mail because the next night came Neopet players fight McDonalds ban, featuring interviews with adult Neopets addicts. But this only increased the outrage on the Neopets boards - they're now trying to squash rumors of McDonalds withdrawing sponsorship altogether, and Neopets shutting down."
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I wrote this new bio for the upcoming Online Community Summit conference sponsored by the Online Community Report.
I have been creating, developing, and managing online communities since January 1995 when my co-founder and I launched GolfWeb, a dot.com that included a golf course database with reader reviews and a "find a playing partner" service. With a small group of engineers and product managers I added further capabilities including a classifieds section (1995) and the "GolfWeb Players Club" (July, 1997).
The GolfWeb Players Club was a purposeful community application for golfers to use improve their game. It was offered as a subscription service and consisted of a game tracking system (golfers entered their rounds and the community provided the tee lengths for each course), private and public groups (where members could compare themselves to others in 30 different ways), online searchable and browsable profiles (including a reputation system), "invite a friend", and other features which were unique at the time; now standard in successful online communities. GolfWeb was featured in Business Week as one of the "Best Products of the Year" in the January 1997 issue that covered 1996 (click on the image to make it larger). GolfWeb was acquired by CBS Sportsline in early 1998.
Using my experience at GolfWeb as a specific example, I spent the next year exploring the underlying principles of communities by researching sociology and speaking with the leading sociologists involved in online communities (most notable was/is Marc Smith). From that research I developed "The 12 Principles of Civilization", a framework for developing and analyzing online communities (this space is now also called "social software" or "social media").
In 1998 I founded RealCommunities, a software startup that transformed the "12 Principles" into a software platform. We had early success with 3 major customers, then the internet bubble burst and RealCommunities was acquired by Mongoose Technology.
For the last three years I have been consulting and, with colleagues, creating and managing various free services including the Software Product Marketing eGroup (a.k.a. ProfGuilds) and the ResumeBlog.
My areas of passion, expertise and experience are:
I am particularly interested in how my clients can tap into existing services such as blogs, groups, Amazon (lists, reviews, guides), eBay, Evite, social networking sites, etc. to achieve their online community goals -- either as prototypes or even as the final offerings. I look forward to discussing this and other topics with the rest of the attendees.
I invite all dog-lovers to visit the blog of Sam, my foster German Shepherd dog, who is seeking his forever home.
I’ve come to the conclusion that blogs are boring. And the comments on blog entries are often worse than boring…not only are many of them silly but just like the online guest books of 10 years ago, the software is so unsophisticated that it allows the same entry again and again and again.
The goofiest blogs are the group blogs where a chosen “elite” get to post and the hoi polloi get to respond with comments. Each of the chosen attempts to make brilliant posts that will prove s/he is a genius, and each of the commentators attempt to either kiss up to the blogger (because s/he is one of the chosen), or prove that they (the commentator) are actually much smarter and have an even better idea, or just be silly.
However, I’m sure there are plenty of great blogs and great group blogs – but those are hidden from our view. They belong to cohesive communities, companies, friends, etc. – people that communicated before the internet and are just using blogs as one of the many online tools to continue to accomplish their purpose.
Feel free to agree or disagree or just be silly. And prove me wrong by pointing to a blog that you rely on and passionately follow (feel free to include your own).
This study on incompetent people came out a few years ago but a recent experience reminded me of how true it is.
So, in case you missed it the first time around...
"There are many incompetent people in the world. But a Cornell University study has shown that most incompetent people do not know that they are incompetent. People who do things badly, according to David A. Dunning, a professor of psychology at Cornell, are usually supremely confident of their abilities -- more confident, in fact, than people who do things well. One reason that the ignorant also tend to be the blissfully self-assured, the researchers believe, is that the skills required for competence often are the same skills necessary to recognize competence. "